A coffee with… Santiago Vela, Founder & Partner at Svam Arquitectos & Consultores
LIB: You have more than 25 years of experience at the head of SVAM, developing all kinds of architectural and urban planning projects. What do you like most about your work and your sector today?
Santiago: Perhaps the diversity of my work is what I am most passionate about, I am very lucky to work in something I like, and when you like your job, then you stop working. You spend a day with your team working on the design of a large Logistics Centre, another week; you spend it developing an international competition, another morning; early in the morning you board a plane to Africa and spend the week working on the projects we are currently developing in Gabon, another day; you spend it in Lisbon visiting possible locations for new projects, another day; you are involved in a citizen participation process exposing a New General Plan, the next day; you are immersed in a succession of video conferences, in which you simultaneously meet with multidisciplinary teams located in different countries, and all of this takes place in English. Another time; the challenge is to present your project to the client. Overcoming professional obstacles and solving complex problems is what I like most about my job. And without a doubt, what contributes most to my personal growth is the feeling that I am part of something bigger than myself, I belong to SVAM, an exceptional team of professionals, and together we manage to excel in our work.
LIB: At SVAM you cover projects ranging from residential and commercial to industrial and logistics. What percentage of your projects belong to industrial and logistics construction? Any outstanding projects that you are currently working on?
Santiago: Approximately half of our projects currently focus on the logistics sector, a percentage that fluctuates depending on market conditions. We are now experiencing a slight contraction, so we have adapted by diversifying our client portfolio and expanding our geographical reach, thus ensuring our continued presence. Since our founding in 1997, we have positioned ourselves in Spain as a benchmark team in the design of industrial and logistics projects. During the 2008 crisis, we expanded into Asia and Africa. Subsequently, with the explosion of e-commerce in Spain from 2017, we have experienced a significant increase in the national demand for logistics projects, reaching to complete more than 50 between 2020 and 2021.
Some of the logistics projects underway that we could highlight are the Bridgestone Logistics Centre in Burgos, with a capacity to house 800,000 tyres, and a surface area of 44,500 m2c. Now, we are also developing one of the largest logistics projects in Spain, “Panattoni Park Miranda de Ebro”, a complex consisting of two large “big box” type buildings with a total of 133,000 m2c, here the challenge posed by the client is to design a project that achieves BREEAM Excellent certification, the first phase of 64,000 m2c is already under construction. In addition, we are busy with other more conventional logistics projects, which are in different phases.
LIB: How do you approach the start of a logistics project?
Santiago: There are various formats of logistics promotion, and consequently the itinerary followed by the first steps of the projects is adapted to the type of promotion. Sometimes they are “tailor-made” projects, and other times they are “speculative” projects. In both cases, the beginning of the project consists of studying the feasibility of implementing the project in a specific location. To do this, we start by designing several alternatives, which we call “test fit” or “layout”, this is a phase that requires a lot of creativity and a capacity for rapid response; once we have this preliminary project suitable for the client’s objectives, we begin the analysis of the feasibility in all its aspects (urban planning, technical, legal, environmental, etc.). In our case we specialise in technical feasibility studies (TDD), we provide a distinctive feature based on the integration of the urban planning team in the preparation of the “due diligence”, in addition to the experience in the development of all phases of a logistics project, we add the knowledge of urban planning, the regulatory framework and the processing throughout the national territory, this particularity is something that our clients appreciate. We develop TDDs with a holistic approach, detecting risks and seeking solutions. The proof of our good work is that we have carried out more than 300 TDDs to date, and in most cases, our clients repeat.
LIB: Are logistics warehouses in the age of robotisation very different from a few years ago?
Santiago: Indeed, the irruption of robotisation has led to the demand in the logistics sector for a wide variety of logistics centres that require a customised design; they are centres that must respond to the specific features requested by operators in line with their technological processes. The current demand covers a wide range of typologies, such as robotised storage centres, automated sorting centres, last mile logistics with cold storage, etc. This new ecosystem has greatly enriched the landscape of the environmental market, and for an architectural and engineering services company such as ours, it is an interesting sector in which we can contribute our know-how.
On the other hand, in our research and teaching facet, for some years we have been participating in postgraduate training, in these programmes we are creating an academic base on the logistic of the 21st century, where we integrate knowledge on the diversity of logistic typologies and their urban, constructive, economic, etc. implications. This evolution of logistics is generating an exciting sector of activity, in need of large doses of innovation and which will require the talent of professionals with specific training. Logistics is becoming a key activity in today’s economy and is attracting major investors.
LIB: The concept of sustainability has broadened to encompass not only environmental issues, but also other social issues and governance factors. How are all ESG factors influencing the design and construction of logistics real estate?
Santiago: The current transformation of the real estate sector requires the design of real estate products in which we must introduce the three factors of the sustainability equation. Not that this is anything new, these aspects should always be considered in a good design. The difference is that now it is a matter of objectifying and creating metrics that allow us to accredit the merits of the projects with respect to the three dimensions of sustainability. Our team has been trained in the implementation of what we call “3D sustainability“.
In today’s industry, everything revolves around the concept of green logistics. In this context, developers are looking for design teams that can address and solve this new paradigm. In this line we are in continuous training and have equipped ourselves with software capable of assessing sustainability indicators, such as the measurement of the carbon footprint throughout the life cycle of the project. Perhaps the measurement of the governance dimension is still in its infancy, and like all new requirements it needs time to mature. In this respect, in the drafting of urban planning we employ a methodology that incorporates governance through public participation processes.
LIB: We cannot end the interview without asking you about Logistic & Industrial Build, the new fair that we are launching in November 2024 and which will be the only one dedicated exclusively to logistics and industrial construction. From your point of view, what do you think a fair of these characteristics can bring to the market and what do you think are its main strengths?
Santiago: The creation of a trade fair exclusively dedicated to the logistics and industrial construction sector in Madrid was a unanimous demand from all players in the sector. The current environment is extremely propitious, given the growing weight of logistics in the recent economy. Madrid is home to the most influential developers in the sector, the Madrid trade fair is the most prominent on an international level, the main real estate consultancies have a national presence in this city, communications from Madrid to the rest of Spain are optimal, as are international connections, which is replicated in the main architectural and engineering companies. It is therefore logical to capitalise on these advantages and collaborations to establish an emblematic event in the field of logistics with international repercussions. Madrid is in fashion and logistics is now an attractive driver of the economy, who can afford to miss the opportunity to bet on this winning combination?
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